Terminator: Dark Fate

Leaving Terminator: Dark Fate, I never felt like they managed to save the franchise, nor overwhelmingly glad this movie exists. Its an adequate addition in a messy franchise that never reaches the heights of the first two films but is just above the three films before it, and because of this a lot of people will like it much more than they should. Its not the Halloween or even the X-Men: Days of Future Past of the 'Terminator' franchise; its a fine follow up, and sadly nothing more.

• Chris dos Santos

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When it comes to the Terminator franchise, I share the same opinion as most people. The 1984s original became a cult classic, and its one of the most influential sci-fi/action films of all-time. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is one of the (very) few sequels to such a beloved movie that actually improves on its predecessor, standing as the number one film of the saga, quality- and entertainment-wise. James Cameron left the franchise, and suddenly it all went down the sewer. While Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines is still tolerable, Salvation is absolutely terrible, and the reboot, Genisys, failed to change the sagas history compellingly. So, obviously, even with the ret...

Pretty good (second) reboot for this long-running franchise with some decent action, respectable enough visual effects (some parts looked off, though) and I did genuinely liked the two new cast members while Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger were fine.

That being said, it's also pretty clear this is not a franchise that needed to have gone beyond the two movies (and I might give leniency to "The Sara Connor Chronicles"). The saving grace is that on the technical front, it was an entertaining popcorn flick but like Genysis (which I also liked tbh), not really sure when I would revisit. 3.5/5

"For John."

'Dark Fate' was meh. I mean it's basically the Force Awakens of the franchise just more cash grab. Like...how many times can they keep alternating T1 & T2, and yet it's astounding that it never ruins the legacy of the series.

Despite all that, it's the third best in the series. At least this movie knows that Terminator is not for kids! I had some engagement in the movie, even through the reason being that it follows a familiar plot line.

Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger are both the stand outs. Hamilton playing a cranky bad-ass and Arnold playing an involved machine that has a life of his own. Mackenzie Davis was surprisingly not as annoying as I thought she will be just from the marketing alone. Her character ...

Let it never be said that they aren't trying. Everybody's trying, even the cast, and there was a genuine question mark over the head of that one going in, but people have been trying to make a great Terminator sequel for a very long time, and not a one of them has succeeded at the job since before I was even born, so maybe what we really need, is for the film industry to just stop trying for a little while. Not stop trying to make good movies, just stop trying to make Terminator movies. Like, at all.

Final rating:½ - Had a lot that appealed to me, didnt quite work as a whole.

Great watch, would watch again, and do recommend.

First, time travel is the worst, but it's what allows the premise.

I don't like divergent timelines, but it allows for some interesting scenarios, so when an android that never would have been created kills someone that would had stopped it from existing had it not been erased from existence, I'm a little interested.

The other big difference, and I'm not really opposed, is that they turned this into a women's empowerment movie when it could have just been bad ass women on screen and it wouldn't have slapped the audience so hard. Plus there is a weird parallel there where they still need a "big strong man" to save them, but it's a machines, so the only man a woman really needs is a ...

It has its fair share of time travel nonsense and weird timeline stuff, but it's still so much better than Terminator Genisys. The cast is pretty good and the action is great to watch. If this is the last Terminator movie, at least it ends on a decent note.

Terrible film... the use of CGI was very imaginative (if repetitive) but the acting was wooden and the storyline (?) was pathetic. Better than Hellboy 3 - but a damn close thing...

So right away they kill off John in the most insulting way possible... making everything in 1-3 absolutely worthless.

And then they replaced him with a 115lbs woman who is the new John Conner because... Woke. And the new terminator is a woman because woke.

And the Terminators before this are bad because not woke.

And politics politics politics politics.

And I am sick of politics in my entertainment

This is a great instalment of the whole Terminator franchise, produced by the only man who counts when it comes to The Terminator, James Cameron. After some more than disappointing additions to the movie lineup, this one is back to what we know, love and want. You can't reinvent the wheel so they don't even try here, they've just re-chromed, polished and added some spinners to the original setup. Dark Fate is simply Judgement Day with modern movie magic and I have no problem with that. And Linda Hamilton as a salty old lady wielding all kinds of assault weapons as if she's almost bored with the whole thing is a treat.